> Holden is a Freudian too. All those hot house ambiguities > about his siblings. The repressed, testosterone-fuelled rage. > His obsession with the reaction formation of phonies. > The strangely absent parents. I would have thought that Salinger, like Nabokov, seeks to actively repel any sense of rationalisation under any form of theory such as Freudianism or Jungism. This, after all, is what Zen is all about, and Salinger on many occasions (such as those mentioned by Matt) sets conventional analysis up as a sort of high-relief phonyism - any attempt to analyse is phony, and we know what S. thinks of phonies (: Bananafish, like Lolita, holds up the dead horse of Freudianism, concealing the beating-stick behind its back until just the right moment. For my own money, I've had many and varied conversations with people on Jungism, which is definitely the direction in which I tend - and which, I suspect, Salinger tends, as it is in general a much more intuitive and abstract concept of analysis than is Freudianism. I had a vehement argument with someone over the idea of Plato's shadows on the walls of his cave - viz, are our contacts with other humans akin to mere shadows being cast from other caves, or are they in the caves with us? Are we all in one big room or are we in metaphorical hotel rooms, contacting each other over metaphorical telephones or jail-like mesh covered windows - i.e., can anyone ever truly know another person? I would say no. However, I do believe, as Jung did, that there is some fundamental connection between the human race, somewhat akin to those old terrace houses in Britain in which the house is a separate entity but the seldom used random storage space of the attic connects all these separate pods. I just don't believe that we have learned to tap into this subconscious, but I think there is enough evidence to say that we are not wholly alone in our thoughts. Ultimately though I think it's more helpful to look on Salinger with a spiritual rather than rational eye. My three cents worth, as D is fond of saying (: Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442 @ THE INVERTED FOREST http://www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest