Re: Criteria time

Malcolm Lawrence (malcolm@wolfenet.com)
Thu, 08 Jan 1998 13:04:34 -0800

Brian Hall wrote:

> I've read several texts on the beats, as well as ginsberg, and
> know he didn't start it and know that there were plenty others besides
> the holy trinity you mention.

Okay, than who do you (or your (please provide names) sources) claim
"started" it? Oh sure, there was a whole pantheon that got grouped
together with them subsequently, but at the end of the day, it was just
three guys. Arguably two, because Burroughs' entire style and subject
matter had nothing whatever to do with what was essentially Beat, he just
happened to be friends with Kerouac and Ginsberg and decided he wanted to
write too.

>  Asking if I am gay is a completely
> ignorant question.

What on earth did you read into my three little words? You called his
erotica boring. I was simply wondering if your opinion comes from the
viewpoint of a heterosexual or a homosexual, which, as you know, Ginsberg
was.

>  And once again you resorted to name calling so
> respond all you want now, YOU won't hear from me again.

Only because you had already deemed it necessary to lecture me on the
dialectics on argument when you originally simply posted "He is not.
Period," Mr. Hall.

> It's utterly
> pathetic to act that way when you can't do it face to face.  I'm sorry
> now that I ever spoke up.

Fine. How much are flights to Seattle these days? Wanna do coffee?