The practice of avoiding upper case seems to be spreading. In the short time I've been a member of the list, there's been some questioning of it by others - not just me. The explanation offered is `laziness'. In that same short period, I've been scolded for discourtesy. But surely courtesy entails, among other things, trying make it as comfortable as one can for one's readers to understand one's ideas. Proffering a long line of monotonously undifferentiated words which have to be construed rather than read is vaguely insulting. It's a bit like turning up at work or for a date, unwashed, undeodorised, uncombed & unkempt. And saying: "I'm sure you don't mind. I simply couldn't be bothered. After all, I'm such a sweet, adorable little thing that I knew no one could possibly object...... Anyway, I don't actually give a damn how you feel. " ________________ In response to Mr Eryk Salvaggio (a jolly attractive name, much more stylish - though, of course, also more egocentric - than `ecas'), my real problem was not so much with the orientalism (though I *do* have a small difficulty with that too) as with the improbability of anyone asking through the medium of a world wide network how best to be modest. Scottie B.