a discussion about T.S.Eliot's vs Ginsberg's ideas on poetry took place some time ago, and more recently a fine suggestion about rubbish as a topic of modern narrative. in APDFBF Seymour says (i'm quoting without the book, sorry) that little Sharon Lipschutz's name mixes memory and desire. that line is part of "The wasteland" ("The burial of the dead" if i'm not mistaken?). Eliot writes "April is the cruellest of months, breeding lilacs out of the dead land, mixing memory and desire..." (sorry, quoting without the book again!). what do you think? was Seymour walking alone through the wasteland? Eliot's poem has a line at the end which goes something like "these fragments i've shored against my ruins". shore: Seymour is at the beach, the end of the land, facing the all-absorbing sea with his small shoulders... Eliot scholars on the list must have examined these lines comprehensively. if so, sorry i bring it back again. diego