Re: Restored (and a final story for Luke and Daniel)

All right, Jim, it's your turn

>You'll have to be careful about the "political rebel" part when you do
>respond.
>Remember the complexities of politics in Palestine in Christ's day. The
>Roman
>Empire had possession of the territory with a governor over the region.
>The
>Romans, however, allowed Palestinian Jews a great deal of self-governance,
>which
>was represented by their puppet-king Herod (at the time of the birth of
>Christ)
>and by the Sadduccees and Pharisees, who represented both governmental
>bodies
>and religious authority by their governance of the temple and
>interpretation of
>Jewish law (respectively).

In fact, about the only time that there was a presence of Roman troops in
Jerusalem was during Passover, which was when riots started and of course
Jesus set up his "triumphant" entrance to stir up the crowds to give them a
victory over the recently arrived soldiers.

>
>NT writers in the Gospels and Acts tend to depict the relationship between
>Rome
>(and its representatives) as benign or at least indifferent. Pilate, you
>remember, did not really want to crucify Christ. All problems come from
>members
>of select Jewish groups (the Pharisees in the Gospels, the Sadduccees in
>the
>book of Acts, along with representatives of the Pharisees that are
>especially
>aggressive) in their attempts to discredit or eliminate Christianity.

How unbelievably misinformed you are. See my post to Robbie on this
acccount. The Romans never did ANYTHING they were told to & if the Jews had
wanted him dead, he'd have been stoned.

>
>So you can say Christ was a "political rebel" in the sense that his
>religious
>reform was threatening to religious authorities in Palestine who also held
>broader societal power. You can't really say he was a political rebel
>against
>Roman rule. He called himself a king, but then said his kingdom wasn't of
>this
>world. And then there's that passage Luke brought up, and Paul's
>injunction to
>the Christians in Rome of all places to be submissive to governing
>authorities.

My, Pat Robertson certainly converted you, didn't he? If he was a king,
yes, he was a threat to Rome. And his kingdom wasn't on Earth because at
the time it belonged to Rome. Why would Jesus tell them to buy swords? Why
would he say he is a lion? Why would he say he's come to set the world
afire? Don't believe the Roman whitewash, look deeper, read more than the
sanctioned material.
"muck-raking" tina

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Received on Thu Jul 24 23:34:24 2003