J J R wrote: > Thank God for Phoebe, the little Sun :) > > Jim I always thought that Phoebe sort of betrays Holden, or doesn't quite live up to his praise of her, at the end of the novel-punching him in the arm and criticizing him for leaving school and so on. At a time when Holden needs the most comfort, this criticism on the part of Phoebe must really have hurt him. I figured this is part of what makes Holden stop wanting to be the catcher, as he starts to realize that little children aren't the greatest people in the whole world. Up to that point, I think all little kids, and childhood itself, represented Allie to Holden, and this belief starts to break down during this conversation with Phoebe and after. She also fights with him about a little boy that she pushes down the stairs or something-and Holden gets a little upset because he thinks that Phoebe doesn't understand the little boy. Phoebe IS a cool kid, but she kind of gives Holden a reality check, one that probably makes him feel a bit betrayed. Hey, if you don't agree with me about the betrayal part, she does mention to Holden that she's going to be Benedict Arnold in the school play. Cheryl