> Could you please point out what things ARE universal then, except, of > course, the universe itself? I think the universal texts are the ones which instead of seeming to be a little piece of action on a stage, can be imagined to be taking place above and beyond the action we are presented - in short when it is somehow more than the sum of its parts. I always call on Hamlet as an ideal example of this, and others - notably Tom Stoppard - obviously agree. TCIR is to my mind another good example. These texts give us a created universe inside which the characters move rather than presenting the universe as incidental to them - windows rather than proscenium arches. Watching them in our mind's eye is like watching life itself, which may be why it's often hard to talk of Holden as a fictional character. Coming back to an earlier argument, we collectively incarnate such characters as Holden and Hamlet (and coincidentally, their emotional dilemmas are not at all dissimilar) in our minds and hearts, causing them to `live' outside the confines of their narrative. We think of what Holden would do in a situation, but we rarely wonder what, say, Arthur Dent would. Any takers? Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442 THE INVERTED FOREST www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest