-----Original Message----- From: Camille Scaysbrook <verona_beach@geocities.com> To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu <bananafish@lists.nyu.edu> Date: Sunday, July 19, 1998 9:02 PM Subject: Re: I am Franny!!! / We love Bill > >> No comment on the Johnny Depp praise. An Oscar nomination? Anyway, I am >> shocked to hear that a writer such as yourself, who feels that the best >are >> those who "make up their own rules," > >Not necessarily - I think it's important to be an expert on the rules >before you start breaking them, just like Picasso was a consummate realist >artist before he moved on to cubism, and Larry from the Three Stooges was a >classically trained violin player. > >No, I've tried to read a lot of those guys - Bukowski, Burroughs ... they >just don't do a lot for me. It's like `Natural Born Killers' - it probably >looked wonderful and made a lot of sense to someone on an acid bender, but >to an ol' soberside like me - blah. Nothing is more boring than watching >someone who is stoned out of their brains to someone who isn't - they're >dull, they ramble, they go off on boring, pointless tangents. One of the >reasons I like Salinger is because he's a great craftsman - he's written >some of the best constructed short stories ever, and even something like >Catcher which appears to ramble is, on closer inspection, pretty well >structured. I prefer it to the later, more boundless things. > >> "Each new line is a beginning and has nothing to do with any lines which >> preceded it. We all start new each time. And, of course, it isn't all >that >> holy either. The world can live much easier without writing than without >> plumbing. And some places in the world have very little of either. Of >> course, I'd rather live without plumbing but I'm sick." > >> --from _The Captain is out to lunch and the sailors have taken over the >> ship_ > >> Anyway. . . would anyone consider the above passage "Salingeresque?" > >Hmmm .... it does have the colloquial tone of either Catcher or De-Daumier >Smith, but ... I dunno. I think it was Will who best summed up >Salingeresque - it has a beginning, middle and end - i.e. he's a pretty >hard writer to characterise. > >Just for you I may give Bukowski another go (: > >Camille >verona_beach@geocities.com >@ THE ARTS HOLE >www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442 >THE INVERTED FOREST >www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest I forgot that I already sent you the Bukowski quote. Please disregard my last post. Yes, give Buk another shot! Try _Notes of a Dirty Old Man_.