I can understand Tim's irritation with those `liberal' families where the pretence is that parents & children are peers. The abrogation of responsibility which often goes with this is, of course, highly damaging to children (& possibly also the adults.) But I have to confess that my own sons - born in the late 50s - & our grandchildren - the early 90s - have always called me & my wife by our nicknames. In my case it certainly derives from the chap whom I've always regarded as the `Seymour' of my own life. Although he was a more obviously glamorous & saturnine figure than Seymour, there were strange parallels in their thinking (remember that in the 1950s Buddhism & mysticism & all that jazz were, as fashions, by no means confined to the upper East side of Manhatten) & he exerted the same formative power on our gang as Seymour did on the Glass family. (For what it's worth, he also committed a kind of suicide - a premature heart attack in his late thirties brought on, I remain convinced, by his addiction to the extremes of experience.) I remember the conversation when I nervously challenged him on the issue. I said I thought it affected. `But,' he said, with that paralysing simplicity that was his specialty, ` that IS my name...' In the case of my own offspring, I can only say that - so far - they have turned out rather nicer & more successful men than their father. So, Tim, is the principle ? Or the clowns who practise it ? Scottie B.