Jaramillojp@kktv.com wrote: > Now for Salinger, he did a great job of > translating this thinking, (as well as Hinduism which he was really into > (Teddy) but I'm not so much into because it leaves the realm of science > or fact and leans toward illogical prayer and dogma) in that he made it > seeable or real if you will in the fictive space of his stories. Great post. This last bit is a good arrow: Zen is not illogical, it is simply no-logic. The thing it's closest to is love. Love has no logic either, but it's not illogical. I also think dancing has a lot to do with it too. The best description I've ever seen was...was it a foreword to a Joseph Campbell book? A western holy man and an eastern holy man were having a conversation. The western holy man asked the eastern holy man what their philosophy was. The eastern holy man thought for a bit and then proclaimed "I don't think we have a philosophy. We just dance."Do you dance? :) Malcs