RE: Reference to JDS by Paul Thomas Anderson


Subject: RE: Reference to JDS by Paul Thomas Anderson
From: LR Pearson, Arts 99 (lp9616@bristol.ac.uk)
Date: Thu May 09 2002 - 04:55:39 EDT


Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!

...Salinger's stories
> are making us go beyond our apple-ish analyses and try to get to a point
> where we can grasp what he is saying without TRYING. I know that this is
> completely tangential, but when the woman in the elevator looks at Seymour's
> feet, we don't need to think, 'oh, there's a symbol'...we need to FEEL it
> (like what Will was saying). Haven't you ever felt like someone was staring
> at something about you for no reason? Or have you ever sat next to a person
> who smells like fabric softener or nice perfume and it's so overwhelming and
> delicious that you just want to turn to them and tell them they smell great
> and ask what brand they use? Seymour is giving this woman an opportunity to
> do that. No matter how many elevators I have been in, I always feel
> awkward, and Seymour is breaking the awkwardness by being REAL and FRANK
> regardless of societal codes. He gives the lady an outlet to say how she is
> feeling, and she fails the test. Salinger isn't always about the
> technicalities of speech or thought, but FEELING and PSYCHOLOGY too. Oh
> phooey, I completely lost track of myself. I guess I drifted toward Will's
> comment, which, by the way Will, was very inspirational, not to mention
> extremely articulate and thoughtful. I'm out.
>
> -Micaela
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org
> [mailto:owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org]On Behalf Of Jaime Stallard
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:02 PM
> To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
> Subject: Re: Reference to JDS by Paul Thomas Anderson
>
>
> I completely agree with you - I can identify with Holden in ways that I
> could never identify with Seymour or even Franny or Zooey. I love Holden and
> I will always be partial to him. He'll always be my favorite.
>
> ----Jaime
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "L. Manning Vines" <lmanningvines@hotmail.com>
> To: <bananafish@roughdraft.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:15 PM
> Subject: RE: Reference to JDS by Paul Thomas Anderson
>
>
> > Micaela said:
> > << As wonderful as Catcher is, I feel that it is much less
> > idiosyncratic than F&Z and 9 Stories. Holden is more of a general
> character
> > with "problems" that most people relate to (although none the less
> brilliant
> > for it). >>
> >
> > I may be alone with Scottie on this, but I think Catcher is all the MORE
> > brilliant for it. Holden is a human we can all know; Franny, Zooey,
> Seymour
> > and company are freaks. I enjoy the Glass stories (well, not Hapworth)
> very
> > much, even Seymour: An Introduction. But I think that, perhaps with a few
> > exceptions, they aren't comparable to Catcher.
> >
> > -robbie
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