RE: Reloaded for Jim

"The land itself will fight"? What do you mean?
Jim

The story about counting the cost, risk assessment? They begin to build the
tower but they didn't prefigure it and they couldn't finish it and so they
were mocked, well, the flipside is that even if you count the cost and the
Earth shakes and topples the tower, both towers are the same, unbuilt. So,
for those tower builders out there, the Earth always shakes eventually, so
each matrix built by hand can be unmade by hands or whatever it is built
upon or lack there of can move and unmake it. Again, if you use some one
else's dirt they may show up and claim it.
Daniel

I don't really "stand" anywhere -- I don't see an issue at hand in this
particular part of our discussion. On this level it seems a matter of
correct
or incorrect factual description. My wife has tried to grow a garden in
our
backyard two years in a row now. Last year a moron cutting our yard for
us
mowed over the garden while it was still very small. This year we have
yet to
see very much come up yet.
Jim

Oh but you do, how do you define factual? That is the philosophers weapon
and chink in his armor. Every tower or building if brought to its
completion requires planning and execution. John O. knows about 'being' and
'becoming', existing and changing but without the plan there is little
difference between a jumble of stones and an unplanned tower. Now, jumbles
of stones are nice but so are planned structures. You seem to have a
proclivity for plans, me too, I am compelled to fill blank pages. Kafka did
too but his, under closer look, are jumbles of stones with a distinct
artificial feel to it. The Matrix is of the same stuff. Where some of us
write in our own notebooks some try to fill up others blank pages. It's a
knife edge and some like Kafka sit on it allowing it to slowly slice upward,
the key is, like walking over coals, is to keep moving, slow enough to see
where you are and where you are going, but fast enough to keep from getting
burned. With this image in mind, then the direction is clear, the shortest
path between two points is a straight line. Now, a departure from a linear
path may not automatically mean being burned but it does increase that
possibility or atleast some nasty scars.

Now concerning gardens, funny you mention that, me and my wife spent a good
part of this weekend planting shrubs, Roses, annuals, and even some
vegetable bearing plants (green chile for one), I was brought up as laborer
in my mothers gardens often not very willing. She always planted huge
gardens (1/4 Acre or more) and we irrigated via ditches and flooding with
water off the Rio Grande. She is still a gardner and she has made me one
too (and my brother also). Keep at it, like everything else, you will get
the knack (green thumb). This whole matrix thing doesn't seem to be very
fertile so its sterilty means it will not last. But if you keep gardening
and teach your children to, that will, or so in my humble opinion it is the
better thing. Councilor Hume didn't know how it all worked but the long
practiced gardner knows better. Dirt under the finger nails and the sky
above them, the desert of the real can be quite interesting, or at least
more so than a cave near the center of the earth.
Daniel

Thank God for grocery stores :).
Jim

I agree, and the gardens, ranches, and farms that stock them. Gardners
never worry about where the ducks from Central Park go for the winter.

To be honest, I am getting tired of this Matrix talk, has anyone seen any
other Movies? Or reading anything interesting? My wife and I were going to
stop at Barnes and Noble today but we ended up working on the yard instead,
so maybe tommorrow, any book recomendations?
Daniel

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