Re: Reloaded for Jim

Responses below...

Yocum Daniel GS 21 CES/CEOE wrote:

> "The land itself will fight"? What do you mean?
> Jim
>
> The story about counting the cost, risk assessment? They begin to build the
> tower but they didn't prefigure it and they couldn't finish it and so they
> were mocked, well, the flipside is that even if you count the cost and the
> Earth shakes and topples the tower, both towers are the same, unbuilt. So,
> for those tower builders out there, the Earth always shakes eventually, so
> each matrix built by hand can be unmade by hands or whatever it is built
> upon or lack there of can move and unmake it. Again, if you use some one
> else's dirt they may show up and claim it.
> Daniel

Ok, I can buy that. You're right, any overarching, all dominating system ever
built has always self destructed. There are two things that keep our fears
alive that one of these days we'll build one that doesn't:

1. Technology is incrementally developing to the point that it can redefine what
it means to be human -- so "programmed humans" aren't that inconvceivable
anymore.

2. Judeo-Christian apocalyptic tends to see the trajectory of human history as
leading to a state like this, in which a single system dominates all humanity.

> I don't really "stand" anywhere -- I don't see an issue at hand in this
> particular part of our discussion. On this level it seems a matter of
> correct
> or incorrect factual description. My wife has tried to grow a garden in
> our
> backyard two years in a row now. Last year a moron cutting our yard for
> us
> mowed over the garden while it was still very small. This year we have
> yet to
> see very much come up yet.
> Jim
>
> Oh but you do, how do you define factual? That is the philosophers weapon
> and chink in his armor. Every tower or building if brought to its
> completion requires planning and execution.

You're kind of taking my application of the word "factual" in directions I
didn't intend it. I would say the ultimate success or development of something
like an all dominating matrix is a matter of speculation. I would say the
dependence of most Americans upon grocery stores for food -- and other systemic
technologies for other means of survival -- is a matter of fact.

Jim

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