Helena, I enjoy your posts so please don't take offense at my questioning of your last one--I read dan's post as playful in it's language and not as a means to put us in a box--I sense your feelings are strong and genuine but maybe dan's post was not intended as you read it...any chance I can reasonably ask you to reconsider your tone? I think we should make fun of ourselves and love for jds and if dan's language was having some of that fun, I don't think it was intended vitriol...will