can i just ask everyone a really, really big favour? you know when you're quoting what someone else said, can you credit the quotes? thanks. it's fine most of the time, but when there's a particularly lively discussion going on it's difficult for me to keep track of who said what. thanks very much! :helena kim helena at netsoc dot tcd dot ie 'the church is near, but the road is icy. the bar is far, but i will walk carefully.' - russian proverb