<<Since the canon was back for this... We expect children to be selfish because we have already lost our innocence and have become as cynical as anyone else. Thus children charitable and compassionate enough to satisfy an innocent, like Esme or Phoebe, are extraordinarily beneficial indeed, which, I believe, is part of Salinger's point. Am I just going overboard / getting boring? I'm just getting into this.--Pasha>> You played the game quite well, thank you very much :) I tend to balk a bit at either/or reasoning--it was a problem I ran into with Aquinas too. I prefer either/or/or/or. Generally, that is. Sometimes (say, with questions of existence) there's no other choices but an either/or. But I agree that we're left baffled, really, by Seymour's suicide. We really don't have any reason to think it was premeditated at all. Why did he bring the loaded gun? SHOOT, I don't know :) Deliberately to kill himself? Or is that just common for a former soldier? Was left unstable by the war, maybe, and all our other speculations are moot? I think your point that we NEED the rest of the canon to understand the story is the best point of all. And that we need the story to understand the rest of the canon as well. I think we're left in the same position as the rest of the Glass family by Seymour's suicide--baffled, and trying to work it out for the rest of our lives. I think that's the point. Jim ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]