I'd just like to add one more thing here, for your enjoyment/disgust/disdain/joy. <shrug> It's just that industrial gets pigeonholed as loud meaningless yelling, when NIN really isn't that at all. It's very complicated, involving emotional music, and I just wish more people could see it. These are the lyrics a song on "The Fragile" by NIN, called... "The Fragile" (Hey now, what a coincidence...) she shines in a world full of ugliness she matters when everything is meaningless fragile she doesn't see her beauty she tries to get away sometimes it's just that nothing seems worth saving i can't watch her slip away i won't let you fall apart she reads the minds of all the people as they pass her by hoping someone can see if i could fix myself i'd - but it's too late for me i won't let you fall apart we'll find the perfect place to go where we can run and hide i'll build a wall and we can keep them on the other side ...but they keep waiting ...and picking... it's something i have to do i was there, too before everything else i was like you If any of you happened to seem the MTV music video awards (which I only watched to see this particular performance) then you saw Trent and the boys do this song. Please go check out "The Fragile". I won't say you won't be sorry, but you just might like it.