Re: franny & zooey

It seems like the way kim explained it, it's not that the two Frannys are
"different," but when "Franny" was written, Franny wasn't Franny Glass, and when
Zooey was written, she had become Franny Glass. There should be continuity
between the Franny in "Franny" and the Franny in "Zooey" because "Zooey" was
written as a continuation of "Franny." I think the close reading is just to
hold up remnants of a prior intent in "Franny."

Jim

m e g h a n wrote:

> To me, I can't even conceive how anyone would think that the two Frannys are
> different. I mean, just because she doesn't mention her brothers(although
> people say she does, I don't remember her doing so, and that's one of the
> arguments used) doesn't mean she doesn't have any. I'm the youngest of five
> - but I rarely mention my siblings, I have no need to. Also, she's being
> very secretive concerning the book, so if she doesn't want Lane to read it
> or have any interest in, it makes sense (to me) that she'd say it's just a
> book for class. If I had a boyfriend who was carrying around a book, and
> told me it was for one of his classes, then I wouldn't give it a second
> thought. Just seems like a slightly ridiculous theory... I was hoping
> someone on this list would see it that way, and shed some light on it, but I
> guess not.
>
> Meghan
>
> >From: Yocum Daniel GS 21 CES/CEOE <daniel.yocum@Peterson.af.mil>
> >Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
> >To: "'bananafish@roughdraft.org'" <bananafish@roughdraft.org>
> >Subject: RE: franny & zooey
> >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:06:38 -0000
> >
> >Or he changed them slightly between the stories because he wanted the
> >details to support his story and he couldn't go back and undo the previous
> >story. I love how Tolkien approached these discontinuities in his Middle
> >Earth works, he incorporates them as artifacts of the recording of
> >'history'. Maybe Buddy misremembered the details. Or Franny was lying to
> >here boyfriend to hide the family oddity (Seymour) from the section man
> >wannabe.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jim Rovira [mailto:jrovira@drew.edu]
> >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:15 PM
> >To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
> >Subject: Re: franny & zooey
> >
> >
> >Ah, Salinger just lost track of details :). So what? :)
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >m e g h a n wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with you. Just to answer your question, the critics said things
> >such
> > > as "Franny in 'Franny' does not mention any siblings," and "In 'Franny'
> >it
> > > says that 'The Way of the Pilgrim' came from the school library, in
> >'Zooey,'
> > > it is said that it came from Seymour's room." It doesn't make sense to
> >me,
> > > and obviously not to anyone else on this list.
> > >
> > > Meghan
> > >
> > > >From: Jaime Stallard <stallard@SLU.EDU>
> > > >Reply-To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
> > > >To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
> > > >Subject: Re: franny & zooey
> > > >Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:25:45 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Maybe I just have a very limited understanding of the two stories, but
> >I
> > > >can't see how the Franny in "Franny" is not the Franny in "Zooey". I
> > > >haven't
> > > >read them in a while but, to me, it does not even seem possible to
> >seperate
> > > >the Frannys. I wondering on what grounds these critics suggested that
> >the
> > > >Frannys were not the same person? Did they have anything to support
> >these
> > > >ideas? It's an interesting suggestion but it seems very unlikely to me.
> > > >
> > > >---Jaime
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "m e g h a n" <bedroomdancing@hotmail.com>
> > > >To: <bananafish@roughdraft.org>
> > > >Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 5:58 PM
> > > >Subject: franny & zooey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > So, to bring the list back to a Salinger related topic...
> > > > >
> > > > > I've read a few reviews/critiques/whatever on "Franny" and on
> >"Zooey."
> >A
> > > >few
> > > > > of them have made the point that just because the two stories are
> > > >grouped
> > > > > together in a book, it doesn't mean that the Franny in "Franny" and
> >the
> > > > > Franny in "Zooey" are the same person. I was just wondering what
> > > >everyone
> > > > > else's opinions are on this subject.
> > > > >
> > > > > Meghan
> > > > >
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Received on Tue Oct 29 16:13:04 2002