angry chick singers

Lagusta Pauline Yearwood (ly001f@uhura.cc.rochester.edu)
Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:14:52 -0500 (EST)

hmm...not to say the opposite of what you just said, lisa, but i have some
different opinions about alanis. so, i guess i am saying the opposite of
what you just said...oh well.

this has absolutely no salinger content..but maybe i can squeeze some in. 

i think there's a huge, justified backlash against alanis, a tendency to
rightfully smash her, because i think she's sort of...well...a fake. a
salinger-esque phony. a total product of her culture. 

ok, i have her damn
cd, and i loved it. but then i started reading and talking about her a
bit, and discovered that she is kind of created (as most musicians these
days are, i admit) by the music industry. 

the reason i don't like her anymore is because i feel like she realized
that this "angry chick" (using the term with the maximum amount of
love and affection and a good chunk of irony) thing was going to be the
Next Big Thing, and she got on the bandwagon and was seen as part of the
vanguard. 

the other reason i don't like her is because i feel like she stole a lot
of ani difranco's..well...whole persona. ani is the complete opposite of
alanis for me. she is completely self made, founded her own record company
to sell her records which she's made like 9 of, and she's only 25 or so.
ani is like holden, alanis is like...stradler. or sally hayes. an updated
version. 

but, maybe not. maybe she's real. but it seems to be that she's completely
created by the record industry. in the 80's she was singing cheesy debbie
gibson songs, and in the 90's she was screaming out ani-type anthems of
self-empowerment and skepticism of men.

i'm not quite sure i completely understand the alanis thing in relation to
the e.e. cummings thing, though. 

well, as ani herself would say (and indeed has said):

"generally my generation wouldn't be caught dead working for the Man
and generally i agree with them, but you're got to have yourself an
alternate plan...i have earned my disillusionment, i have been working
all of my life, and i am a patriot: i have been fighting the good fight...
and what if there are no damsels in distress? what if i knew that, and i
called your bluff?"
	--"not a pretty girl"
 
lagusta





On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Lisa M. Rabey wrote:


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> Anyways, a lot of female singers (the tori's, sarah's, ani's) of the world aren't quite so "angry" about their music. Alanis is. She tell is it how it is, more or less, in your face. Hitting that edge between the surralism of the whinygirlgroups and har
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> Alanis's cd (jagged little pill) was quite popular for over a year. She' grown out of favor, as the other femme singers come into place (jewel, fiona, sarah, tori, dar, et al) and take their own. She (alanis) is really angry at the world. She served a p
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> pose by covering an area that no one had covered, really, before. Most of the previous femme music was either ethereal, or hardcore. no "mainstream" was truly there to voice the angry riot grrl as well as alanis did ;)
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> This is not forsaken other femme artists. but, alanis has her place and she served it well ;)
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> you know us catholic school girls can be... 
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> ttfn.
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> Lisa
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