<<If you want embarassing, try the middle ages. Now those bastards had religion. >> heh, your view of the middle ages is too too narrow. Try William of Occam :) Jim ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]