RE: "The Good Girl" and Graduate School

The only disappointment was that Bill Murray didn't have an extensive role
in the Tenenbaums. He's the most amazing comedic actor of our times and I
love most any role he does. Wes Anderson, the director of the film,
actually used Salinger's work as a back drop for his movie (the fallen child
geniuses, etc.) but not solely, hence the subtle influence. Anderson's work
is perfectly amazing and hilarious anytime and I strongly suggest seeing his
other two movies, "Bottle Rocket" and "Rushmore", if you haven't done so
already. I do believe that any Salinger fan will adore both films. I must
agree that Gwyneth Paltrow is somewhat disappointing, though I think that
the incest theme was more just to show a strong bond between siblings w/ an
amusing/heartbreaking twist. Remember, every aspect of the film does not
reflect Salinger's work, only hints. Regardless, the film makes me terribly
nostalgic for a New York that is long gone, much as reading Salinger does to
me.

Miranda

-----Original Message-----
From: lray [mailto:lray@centenary.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 12:25 PM
To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
Subject: RE: "The Good Girl" and Graduate School

Royal Tannenbaums is a great movie. I have heard people say that Bill
Murray
was pretty disappointing in the movie, but I loved his character. The fact
that the kid he was studying was probably just a moron rather than having
some
new handicap or depression and seeing the kid misplacing the blocks and Bill

Murray's face lighten up like that was just amazing was so funny to me.
As far as the Tannenbaums resembling the Glass family, I don't really see
much
where they are similar besides their genius as their problem with being
around
other people (non-geniuses).
The movie as a dark comedy was great and I liked the subtlety of so many
aspects of the movie. Often when a filmmaker is trying to make a point(s)
in
his/her work it is so blatantly obvious that it feels like being smacked in
the face. This movie wasn't at all like that.
As far as writing in all lower cases, I must say that I write using the
shift
key almost exclusively for this list or if I am communicating with a
professor
or something. I do this because when I first joined the list I was berated
by
Mr. Bowman for typing in all lower case and for having the audacity to put
my
name at the end with a capital L. Maybe now there is the off chance that
Big
Bad Bowman will actually read something I send to the list.
No longer handiCapped,
LEVI

>===== Original Message From Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> =====
>Just saw The Royal Tennenbaums and loved it :). There's a resemblance to
the
>Glass family there in that we have a small family of genius children, but
they
>seem to have neuroses a bit different from most of the Glasses. I don't
really
>see Gwyneth Paltrow's character as a Franny at all -- she's too jaded. She
>acts like she was sexually abused AND terribly neglected. The incest theme

in
>that movie is pretty interesting...but don't see a hint of it in Salinger.
>
>Gene Hackman stole the show ;). And that's even with Angelica Houston
opposite
>him -- what a feat.
>
>Seems like this came up recently. One post described the children as being
>whiny, I think -- more crybaby than genius. I think genuis was second to
the
>fact that the kids were sooo neglected by their father and raised in such a
>screwed up environment...as if to say, even brillant kids will just go to
>pieces in a home like this.
>
>Jim
>
>"Murray, Miranda" wrote:
>
>> Amber,
>>
>> I would not suggest Pennsylvania State University...regarding the film
"The
>> Good Girl", I haven't seen it yet but it looks mildly interesting. How
>> would you rate it? On the subject of Salinger influence in films, did
>> anyone enjoy "The Royal Tenenbaums"? Any thoughts?
>>
>> Miranda
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Raley, Amber [mailto:araley@agnesscott.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:23 AM
>> To: 'm e g h a n '; 'bananafish@roughdraft.org '
>> Subject: "The Good Girl" and Graduate School
>>
>> Meghan et al.,
>>
>> You statements seem to almost describe the Holden character (Tom is his
>> slave name) from the film "The Good Girl." Did anyone else see this
movie
>> and have any thoughts about the strong Salinger connection? It was a bit
>> overboard in my opinion. Maybe that was the point?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Amber
>>
>> P.S. Non-Salinger material to follow. I will (hopefully) be going into
an
>> Industrial/Organizational Psychology PhD program next year. To all of
the
>> resident academics are any of you familiar with the 'atmosphere' of any
of
>> my top 10 choices for Graduate school?
>> 1. Pennsylvania State University
>> 2. Bowling Green State University
>> 3. Saint Louis University
>> 4. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>> 5. University of Connecticut
>> 6. Colorado State University
>> 7. Portland State University
>> 8. Texas A&M University
>> 9. Rice University
>> 10. University of California, Berkeley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: m e g h a n
>> To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
>> Sent: 9/3/2002 8:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: intelligence of the author vs. intelligence of the
characters
>>
>> >I actually feel the same way you do about Catcher and the Glass stories
>> (I
>> >get a lot more out of the Glass stories). . .just, if you want to judge
>> >Salinger's influence, there's just no getting around or beyond Catcher.
>>
>> I agree also. What gets me about "Catcher" is that (this may be
>> selfish)it's
>> not Salinger's best work, yet it's taught in high schools, which gets it
>> a
>> lot of exposure. Then you have kids full of real or imagined angst who
>> are
>> like, man that book is me! I can relate! And they then credit Salinger
>> as
>> their favorite author.. without ever reading any of his other (better)
>> work.
>> It's just given too much credit. The selfish part comes in because I
>> first
>> read Catcher when I was 13, I had seen it in a bookstore and made my mom
>> buy
>> it. Fast forward three years, it's being taught in english and there's
>> 100
>> kids or however many in my class saying how much they love it.. when
>> they
>> probably never would have read it on their own. I guess I should hope
>> that
>> someone reads Catcher in english class, and then reads Salinger's other
>> work
>> and falls in love with it like I did, and then I can thank Catcher for
>> that.
>>
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