I hate to jump in here, to add my 2 cents worth (...not quite qualifying for the pensioner's discount yet) from the advanced age of 48 (with a 25th wedding anniversary coming up on 9/9/99!), but I have to say I'm with Carl ALL THE WAY on this one.... If a guy can't dream at the age of 16, he'll INEVITABLY end up in the poisonous 'reality' of certain sophisticated twenty-somethings I've met.... Cheers, Paul