Subject: Re: unfair to bush (yeah, so?)
From: Jive Monkey (monkey_jive@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Dec 21 2000 - 13:57:55 GMT
jake-
i didn't say that what we did in iraq was right, i'm just saying that's how
it was done. it is neither the first time, nor will it be the last, that
the us supports, either tacitly or overtly, through failure to act properly
or otherwise, some corrupt jackass with a penchant for human rights
violations. my point was, i hope (not that i'm such a king at making my
point clear), that, from a political and military standpoint, saddam is a
known factor, and anyone else in charge is an unknown factor. despite the
grandest hopes of all of us here in the west, democracy does not grow like a
weed wherever we attempt to plant a seed. to assume that democracy would
magically take hold in iraq if saddam was out of the picture is,
unfortunately, a tad unrealistic. i personally would love it if every
country in the world was a democracy, but the reality of society is
otherwise. most of human history is dominated by monarchies and
totalitarian regimes of one sort or another. do you think that if the
communists, such as they are, in china were to suddenly bow out, that
democracy would take hold there and everyone would be happy? after 5,000
years of state run society (more or less, i don't know the specifics of
chinese history, but i'm pretty damn sure democracy is a new concept there),
i'm not too sure that the chinese would be ready for a change. too, the
iraqis, and many other countries not yet converted. the social and
political upheaval neccessary to go from one form of government to another,
due to war or uprising, is pretty drastic. remember what happened to russia
in 1917? or even ireland 1916-1922? how about the u.s. civil war? that kind
of stuff going on in the middle east is exactly what the us doesn't want to
happen, and what they are trying to prevent by containing iraq. stablity is
the goal, and democracy be hanged. that isn't the right thing to do, it's
the safest.
andy
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