I've been nearly invisible on this list for a while, with school and all, but Helena's post forced me out of reclusion. This is exactly the sort of stuff I am concerned about. Last semester, I took a great philosophy class in which we read a lot of the great books of Western Culture (began with the Odyssey, ended with Moby Dick); the whole point of this class, for the teacher, was to make us care again, or at least make us want to care. He's worried that in a post-monotheist, post-everything world, people have become too detached and relativistic to even want to care any more. He made me want to be involved in something. However, he doesn't believe you can choose to be involved in something. I didn't believe this at first, but now it makes sense. When you choose to get involved in something, then it has no authority and thus no real meaning, because of the very fact that you chose it and can unchoose it at any time. The best example I can give, I guess, is that you can't really choose to be a Christian. Sure, you could decide one day to join a church, and go through the motions without really believing in God, but then you're not really being a Christian. God has no real authority for you. So you can't really choose to believe in God and Jesus and all the rest: it has to pull you in somehow so that you can't unchoose it. No Christian that I've known has ever said "I chose God"; it's usually "I found God" or "I let Jesus into my life"; these last two statements assume God's existence, which gives an idea of the way God has authority for truly religious people: they couldn't choose God, he just WAS and they had to let him in. So, one of the implications of his theories is that nothing in the modern world grabs people any more. I mean, nothing grabs you and pulls you into it, thus giving your life a specific set of equipment and goals, and thus a meaning and a certain range of possiblities which make sense. Once I had a discussion with him in office hours, and the only thing we could think of that still grabs you like that, gives your life meaning and goals, was romantic love. He remembers Martin Luther King, and I guess that might have, but I can't conceive of it (born 4/6/78). I think of this so much: wouldn't it be great to be grabbed by some cause or movement and get meaning? Sometimes I even wish there was a war (but before everyone jumps on me: I really really don't want a war, it's only when I'm caught up in this sort of one-dimensional how can I care thinking that I even wish for it, and even then only momentarily). Nevertheless, war is one of the great worlds that can pull you in. All of a sudden you have a set of equipment and goals and a range of choices; suddenly your life has meaning and color and makes sense. And so with this waiting comes thinking of worlds that don't exist any more, and longing for them, not really for what they were but romanticized versions, which Helena put so well. On Fridays I usually eat in Bowles Hall, a very old all-men's dorm here at Berkeley. Now it's falling apart, dingy--nobody wants to live there. But when I'm in there, there's still enough material for me to imagine myself a college student in the fifties, living in an all-men's dorm, wearing suits all the time, going to stately parties on Friday nights with a girl that I had to wait for on the bottom floor of her dorm. The world now is a graveyard of sensory experiences and most of the time I'm a dog, sniffing around for a scent. John