Re: Restored (and a final story for Luke and Daniel)

From: James Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu>
Date: Thu Jul 17 2003 - 12:50:33 EDT

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. First you say that little t
"truth" exists apart from the observer, it is not personal property.
Then you say that "relationships between people is all that really
matters." If "truth" little t isn't personal property, then it can't
reside in interpersonal relationships either, can it? You must believe
that the individual has "truth" but can't know until it's been confirmed
by others as well.

This is pretty enlightenment and is the basis of the idea of "common
sense." I don't buy it. What constitutes "common sense" is usually a
product of power structures and personal interests shared among a large
group of people. Either way, it tells us nothing about "truth" until we
subject it to critique.

Jim

Yocum Daniel GS 21 CES/CEOE wrote:

> Jim, little t truth is not truth as applied to the specific. Little t
> truth is not related to Big t truth by the specific The implicit
> discussion in all these months is about; what is true about truth.
> One characteristic of truth is that it is not personal property, it
> exists on its own apart from the observer. How can we know that there
> exists anything apart from the observer. We don't with philosophy but
> if you want to relate with others there is no other way. And as far
> as I can tell relationships between people is all that really matters
> so Truth matters. I could be wrong on all this, we flawed human lumps
> of mud can't escape error or flaws, but with big T truth, I have
> meaning that I can share, and it can be shared with me. I suspect
> most of that chemical psychological help needed now days stems from
> the need to relate to others and that need being frustrated. I am
> sure Scottie has an opinion on all of this and if we squeeze him hard
> enough we can get it out of him, like "fascist" was pinched out of
> John O. Jim, don't feel bad, we are all missing something hence our
> need for others. Jim, sadly we are often in the realm of little
> truths good thing we live in tents. We are all like Franny, a bunch
> of Pilgrims and hopefully not lost in that realm. And for the record,
> a loaded German pistol is not the door out.
> Daniel

-
* Unsubscribing? Mail majordomo@roughdraft.org with the message
* UNSUBSCRIBE BANANAFISH
Received on Thu Jul 17 12:50:35 2003

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Tue Sep 16 2003 - 00:18:38 EDT