> I gather this conceit that a work of art is some kind of > co-operation between creator & audience derives originally from > Frog literary theory. It triggers a lot of delighted laughter > in England but is apparently still taken quite seriously in America > & some of the other colonies. First of all. Let me put out there that I do not consider myself an intellectual. As far as I'm concerned, no one's theory of literature is paramount; I subscribe to none of them. I' (And please ... *please* do not demean yourself by referring to Australia so contemptuously as `a colony' as if we are still trying to bleach the convict-arrows out of our pyjamas! It's a terrible example of the green-inkism you were condemning yourself only days ago.) > It is, of course, utter drivel propogated by academics & critics > hoping to arrogate their humble function to the same level as > that of the artist. But that's not how the thing works at all. That's not true at all. I'm neither a critic nor and academic - I'm close as a university-educated person can be to Salinger's famed `amateur reader' (and coincidentally enough a writer myself). If you can put aside your obvious contempt for such `arrogating' people you will listen to my side of the story, at which I am not attacking from any intellectual point of view but in my own opinion and experience. What I mean by this exchange is that writing is a kind of communication, and for a communication to be valid; for that tree to be *heard* crashing to the floor of the woods, there needs to be a receiver. > The artist or writer is the discoverer of a unique vision which > he tries - without ever wholly succeeding - to transmit across > all the static & bumph of interstellar space to whatever distant > planets may be trying to tune to his wavelength. This is very true. Very true. And it rests at the core of my opinion - the artist *is* transmitting his message. But it is impossible for this message not to change in transit. You cannot say that the Holden Caulfield in my head is the same as the one in your head. Nor is your experience of the book the same as mine - I read it in highschool, and so it is inextricably linked to that time for me. Both of our experiences of the book are different to Salingers'. Between us, we have `created' three different books that mean different things. There is a certain sacredness, granted, in the author's original `transmission', for he or she is the one who sent the impulse that stimulated something in us. But ultimately this stimulus is only a collection of suggestions that you put out for the world to consider. As you say yourself : > the artist may not, himself, > wholly understand since much of it derives from his own unconscious. This is in fact accepting the reality that the author is not necessarily the ultimate authority on his or her own text. I know I don't know everything about the things I have written. I need almost as much help interpreting them as anyone else. I've seen many productions of my plays, and more often than not I've realised something new in each production that I didn't realise was in there. Yes, I put it in there, but it was hidden to me. It was, as I said a suggestion, of which every text is filled, and which different people find different answers for. If they disagree with my interpretation, I am in no position to say they are right or wrong. So no, I don't agree that: > But, believe me, he is in a much better position to speak for it > than anyone else who, by the very nature of things, is many light > years from its place of origin. > > I know about these things. I'm a writer of novels both published > & acclaimed & have known quite a number of creative writers even > more distinguished than myself. I don't believe in elitism of this sort. I don't feel inferior to you because I haven't had anything published, and nor should I. I would hope that you respect myself and the other writers on this listserv (and there are many) and our opinons regardless of what we have had published or what big names we have known. This shouldn't make any difference whatsoever. > The day Jack REALLY starts to believe he's as > good as his Master will be the day Western Civilisation starts > its final collapse. I think it's a shame that this is your opinion. Out of everything about creating literature and art, I find the exchange of ideas the most fascinating and the aspect which I most cherish. I don't see myself as the master of my readership or audience. Instead, I really appreciate the exchange that takes place and truly enjoy the idea that in each and every head that has come into contact with my writing, I have planted the seed that grows into a wonderful experience which is unique to every person. I don't think I could bear writing into a vacuum as Salinger does. As far as I'm concerned, Author + Reader = Text. But I can in a way understand his anonymoty - by removing himself from one end of that equation of communication, he makes us rely on our own interpretation. It just seems a shame that he is not interested in the things his stories have become in the minds of others. Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442