RE: RE: freedom fighters


Subject: RE: RE: freedom fighters
From: Valérie Aron (miss_vertigo18@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Jun 18 2001 - 18:00:55 GMT


 I don't think Scottie is an old frustrated guy. First
of all, I think he is less old than what he suggests.
Secondly, he just pretends to be a frustrated-growling
man. Maybe it's a game, he enjoys giving unpolitically
correct opinions, just to create a debate (or a
verbal-fight) and he's right because it's just what it
happens! Maybe he is sometimes disappointed because
none of us resist attacking his too-obviously-bad
faith views (like the island race: telling it's scary
is pushing an open door and is an easy way to declare
ourself the savior of democracy ...). Or maybe I'm
just wrong and right now he's teaching his dog how to
steal afterschool snack from children...

Sunny regards,
Valérie

--- zazie <zazie@raketnet.nl> wrote:
> Sean,
> isn't this simply an old guy frustrated about his
> age? i mean his reference
> to 'compulsive conformity of the young'? Where did
> he experience that? I
> never found the kids in my school so conforming, you
> had different groups,
> about the same in size and that was that. Maybe it's
> different in ireland
> or the us.
> Also, this 'island race' remark is a bit scary to
> me, and pathetic
> Scary because this thinking in 'race', especially
> where there is no 'race'
> (there is NO genetic difference between Brits and
> mainlanders, the very
> thought is ridiculous) can lead to things like the
> British Nationalist
> Party, the local Nazis.
> Pathetic because if he IS Irish, he is claiming to
> be part of a group (the
> English) which looks down on him. Isn't that sad?
>
>
>
>
> --------------------Origineel
> bericht--------------------
>
> Scottie:
> "...the chorus of sensitive young libertarians
> on the other
> side of the Atlantic falling over themselves in
> their haste
> to malign their own country & its leaders."
>
> Scottie, I could just hug you for this post. You
> simply have no match.
> But enough of the sensitive, touchy-feely crap.
>
> You've captured The American Attitude to Power, be
> it American power or
> someone else's. We are a country conditioned to root
> for the underdog,
> so its only natural that we're uncomfortable with
> being the richest,
> most powerful nation in the world. If you ask me,
> this stands in
> refreshing contrast to the untolerably superior
> attitudes of a certain
> "Island Race" that once dominated the world.
> Thankfully, the sun has at
> last set on all that smugness.
>
> You're right to admire America for fighting
> nationalism gone haywire in
> WWII, but at the same time you poke fun at us for a
> complete lack of
> nationalist sentiment at home. Isn't that a bit
> inconsistent?
>
> -Sean
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