Subject: Re: Just an item of interest
From: Chris Kubica (chriskubica@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Jun 26 2002 - 16:55:57 EDT
Jim,
I totally want to hear you on this, but I guess I've
drawn a stricter line than you (both are just as
valid, I'll add). The line you draw seems arbitrary to
me ("two hours ok, 24 not, 3 posts off topic ok, 4
not" etc.) Why, I ask, why, can't we just talk about
literature and JDS here?
Chris K
--- Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> wrote:
> Chris...however nicely you phrased it, the intent
> was still the same :).
>
> Common sense and past experience on this listserve
> and others dictates, to
> me, that if an off topic thread has only being going
> on for a few hours,
> you don't try to reign it in. If it's going on for
> three, four days...well
> yeah :)
>
> Jim
>
> Chris Kubica wrote:
>
> > Jim,
> >
> > I am trying to suggest that we collectively decide
> to
> > curb the behavior, yes. I never said "STOP!" or
> > anything rude like that, though. I said "let's be
> > careful". What's wrong with expecting that the
> topic
> > here stay on things literary? It seems elementary.
> If
> > you subscribed to a "Keats poem of the week"
> e-mail
> > club, would you mind if they started sending you
> > pornographic material, too, and said "unsubscribe
> if
> > you don't like it" when you complained? That'd be
> > pretty cold, wouldn't it?
> >
> > Honestly, I don't understand the "don't tell me
> what
> > to say, I'll say whatever the heck I want" line.
> It's
> > just gonna make people unsubscribe because they'll
> > lose interest in the soap-boxing, even if it goes
> on
> > for less than a day. Why would you want that? (And
> why
> > is it that I only experience this when dealing
> with my
> > fellow Americans I wonder)?
> >
> > Chris K
> >
> > --- Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> wrote:
> > > Right, Chris, it's just your subjective
> > > opinion...and you're trying to
> > > enforce it on the list. The political
> discussions
> > > haven't been going on
> > > for even one day and you're trying to shut them
> > > down?
> > >
> > > Or even acting like you have the right?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > Chris Kubica wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jim,
> > > >
> > > > I know this is my subjective opinion, but I'm
> OK
> > > with
> > > > discussions of literature-related stuff on
> here
> > > > (Beats, Joyce, etc.). But pure political
> > > discussions
> > > > about Bush or the FBI or Ashcroft or whatever
> are
> > > just
> > > > annoying. If your inbox starting filling with
> > > > discussions of Indonesian parliamentary
> elections,
> > > > you'd get pretty annoyed eventually, prolly. I
> do
> > > note
> > > > that we're not at the "filled up inbox" stage
> yet,
> > > but
> > > > we still should be careful. I don't see how
> saying
> > > > "let's be careful" is less appropriate than
> your
> > > more
> > > > "anything goes" or "if you can't take the
> heat"
> > > idea.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, if you want to be able to chat about
> > > > "whatever" with list members, why not set up a
> > > chat
> > > > room, invite bananafishers, and meet there
> once a
> > > > week/month?
> > > >
> > > > Also, I don't buy the "just delete it"
> defense.
> > > What
> > > > if the e-mail header is already offensive to
> > > someone
> > > > (not that any of the recent ones have been),
> for
> > > > example?
> > > >
> > > > Also note that I'm not at all angry or
> > > snippy-feeling.
> > > > Just curious about the above issues. ;)
> > > >
> > > > In my defense, note that in almost every one
> of my
> > > > messages lately, even about E.H., I try to tie
> it
> > > into
> > > > JDS somehow...
> > > >
> > > > Chris K
> > > >
> > > > --- Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> wrote:
> > > > > Chris, I'm sorry, but Hemingway is off
> topic,
> > > Joyce
> > > > > is off topic, the Beat
> > > > > Poets are off topic, and this thread is
> clearly
> > > > > identified. If you don't
> > > > > want to read these messages, delete the
> messages
> > > > > unread.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems like we've been through this before
> :).
> > > > > Salinger is usually NOT the
> > > > > topic of discussion here, and the
> > > Salinger/Hemingway
> > > > > discussion we once had
> > > > > quickly turned into a Hemingway
> discussion...
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
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