Subject: Re: Just an item of interest
From: Jim Rovira (jrovira@drew.edu)
Date: Wed Jun 26 2002 - 16:44:41 EDT
Chris...however nicely you phrased it, the intent was still the same :).
Common sense and past experience on this listserve and others dictates, to
me, that if an off topic thread has only being going on for a few hours,
you don't try to reign it in. If it's going on for three, four days...well
yeah :)
Jim
Chris Kubica wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I am trying to suggest that we collectively decide to
> curb the behavior, yes. I never said "STOP!" or
> anything rude like that, though. I said "let's be
> careful". What's wrong with expecting that the topic
> here stay on things literary? It seems elementary. If
> you subscribed to a "Keats poem of the week" e-mail
> club, would you mind if they started sending you
> pornographic material, too, and said "unsubscribe if
> you don't like it" when you complained? That'd be
> pretty cold, wouldn't it?
>
> Honestly, I don't understand the "don't tell me what
> to say, I'll say whatever the heck I want" line. It's
> just gonna make people unsubscribe because they'll
> lose interest in the soap-boxing, even if it goes on
> for less than a day. Why would you want that? (And why
> is it that I only experience this when dealing with my
> fellow Americans I wonder)?
>
> Chris K
>
> --- Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> wrote:
> > Right, Chris, it's just your subjective
> > opinion...and you're trying to
> > enforce it on the list. The political discussions
> > haven't been going on
> > for even one day and you're trying to shut them
> > down?
> >
> > Or even acting like you have the right?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Chris Kubica wrote:
> >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > I know this is my subjective opinion, but I'm OK
> > with
> > > discussions of literature-related stuff on here
> > > (Beats, Joyce, etc.). But pure political
> > discussions
> > > about Bush or the FBI or Ashcroft or whatever are
> > just
> > > annoying. If your inbox starting filling with
> > > discussions of Indonesian parliamentary elections,
> > > you'd get pretty annoyed eventually, prolly. I do
> > note
> > > that we're not at the "filled up inbox" stage yet,
> > but
> > > we still should be careful. I don't see how saying
> > > "let's be careful" is less appropriate than your
> > more
> > > "anything goes" or "if you can't take the heat"
> > idea.
> > >
> > > Anyway, if you want to be able to chat about
> > > "whatever" with list members, why not set up a
> > chat
> > > room, invite bananafishers, and meet there once a
> > > week/month?
> > >
> > > Also, I don't buy the "just delete it" defense.
> > What
> > > if the e-mail header is already offensive to
> > someone
> > > (not that any of the recent ones have been), for
> > > example?
> > >
> > > Also note that I'm not at all angry or
> > snippy-feeling.
> > > Just curious about the above issues. ;)
> > >
> > > In my defense, note that in almost every one of my
> > > messages lately, even about E.H., I try to tie it
> > into
> > > JDS somehow...
> > >
> > > Chris K
> > >
> > > --- Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> wrote:
> > > > Chris, I'm sorry, but Hemingway is off topic,
> > Joyce
> > > > is off topic, the Beat
> > > > Poets are off topic, and this thread is clearly
> > > > identified. If you don't
> > > > want to read these messages, delete the messages
> > > > unread.
> > > >
> > > > Seems like we've been through this before :).
> > > > Salinger is usually NOT the
> > > > topic of discussion here, and the
> > Salinger/Hemingway
> > > > discussion we once had
> > > > quickly turned into a Hemingway discussion...
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
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