Re: me (and meds)

responses within your email.

--- tina carson <tina_carson@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have to take issue with what I think is a
> diagnosis of Holden. I do not
> think he has any mental illness at all. His problem
> stems from the
> systematic breakdown of his family following his
> brother's death. His
> parents have fallen apart and can no longer
> effectively parent at a time
> when he is becoming a man and needs parenting
> perhaps more than ever.

i dont think i said that holden had a mental illness.
he has had, for lack of a better word, a nervous
breakdown. you are so right regarding allie.
absolutely. and this grieving is causing him
problems. he is need of a rest and talk therapy due
to the confluence of psycological, emotional and
physical problems. but he is not mentally ill.
(remember, jds withdraw the novel from one publisher
whose response was that holden was crazy.) he has no
one to turn to, no one to look up to. but he is
certainly a young man in need of help or there will be
some serious problems ahead. robert coles in an
interesting essay/interview with anna freud relates
how ms. freud would have dozens of clients talking
about this holden caulfield character. she finally
heard about him so much she read the novel. coles
says that ms. freud found holden to be real,
believable, alive on the page. and so representative
of certain problems of youths. she then remarked that
holden couldn't be invented; that this voice was
surely the open confession of the author. then
catching herself, she reverted back to talking about
her clients.

   
> Seymore, on the other hand, needs therapy.

*seymour*, or, to the young, *see more*, underwent
therapy. and to invoke zooey, look what happened.
therapy was evidently not the answer for seymour.
seymour has a double curse: he is an authentic god
seeker, and he is a poet of the highest order. i don't
know what would have 'saved' seymour. perhaps saving
isn't even the right concept. perhaps he achieved
what he had set out to do this incarnation (pace
alsen).

kim

>
>
> Holden thing you think Kim?
> >
> >yea, i think that has a lot to do with it. i find
> us
> >an interesting bunch of people, and imagine,
> >statistically more than 'the norm,' might be in
> need
> >of the equivalent of holden's recuperation.
> >
> >i might add i sometimes think that seymour
> >approximates many of the classic symptoms of the
> >manic depressive.
> >
> >kim
> >
> >
> > > i would recommend 'touched with fire:
> > > manic-depressive illness and the artistic
> > > temperment'
> > > by kay jamison.
> > >
> > >
> >
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Received on Thu Jun 26 14:05:41 2003