Subject: Re: Reference to JDS by Paul Thomas Anderson
From: Valerie (kate.beown@wanadoo.fr)
Date: Fri May 10 2002 - 17:06:19 EDT
Stop porn, please.
:)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Rovira" <jrovira@drew.edu>
To: <bananafish@roughdraft.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Reference to JDS by Paul Thomas Anderson
> thanks. I'm even worse, enjoying watching myself write...
>
> :)
>
> Jim
>
> Micaela wrote:
> >
> > Cecilia, you're great. So are you Jim. I keep wanting to agree with
you
> > both no matter what you write. I like being a discussion voyeur.
> >
> > -M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org
> > [mailto:owner-bananafish@roughdraft.org]On Behalf Of Cecilia Baader
> > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:42 PM
> > To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
> > Subject: Re: Reference to JDS by Paul Thomas Anderson
> >
> > --- Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Don't really know how to further respond to you. You asked me to
check
> > > my own department in reply to a post in which I described
> > > my own department
> > > :).
> >
> > No, Jim, I said to check the makeup with regards to full professors v.
> > assistant professors v. adjunct professors and lecturers. I think
you'll
> > find I'm right. It's certainly true of the three English departments of
> > my own experience.
> >
> > I can spout facts at you all day long. For instance, in my own English
> > Department, six of the full tenured professors are men, while only three
> > are women. Two assistant professors are men, and one is a woman. Three
> > of the adjunct lecturers are men, while eight are women. Add it up and
> > you'll see that although the women outnumber the men in my department in
> > numbers similar to those you reported, you'll find that few of them have
> > managed to find tenure. I'll let you work out the percentages for
> > yourself.
> >
> > And Wisconsin is famous for its institutional liberalism, too.
> >
> > Nothing's more tiresome than a woman whining about inequality, but it's
> > not usually the men in a department who notice these things.
> >
> > How did we get on this discussion?
> >
> > > I think it's a mistake to too carefully distinguish between HS
teachers
> > > and college level academics -- who trains the HS teachers? :).
> >
> > Other High School teachers and Department Heads. College education
> > classes have little to do with curriculum ten years down the line, and
> > it's not the newly graduated teachers who decide what books to teach.
> >
> > > I was told that one institution in So. Cal. hired a guy fresh out
> > > of grad school to be a DEAN of all things --
> > > simply because the institution was located in a densely hispanic area
> > > and he was a competent hispanic scholar.
> >
> > Yes, but everyone knows that they're all nuts in Southern California.
> >
> > KIDDING. Kidding. No hate mail from California, please.
> >
> > > PC obsession, we both recognize, is widely disseminated. To think it
> > > doesn't affect the makeup of faculty and admininistration is a bit
> > > silly...
> >
> > I never suggested that. However, I'm tired of people claiming that
> > because of political correctness and affirmative action, equality is a
> > reality, because it isn't. It isn't. It is not.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Cecilia.
> >
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