Re: salinger's problems with westeners

From: Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu>
Date: Fri Oct 25 2002 - 12:44:04 EDT

I can buy that. I read a pretty scathing review of Hapworth written within
the last few years -- probably around the beginning of the rumors that it
was going to be republished in book form.

I can't stand Hapworth but it's still Salinger and I'd love to see it
published. And, really, it is still out there. Just a bit more difficult
to get.

Jim

Kim Johnson wrote:

> i don't think beckett cared a fig what the critics
> wrote and thought. whereas salinger seems to be very
> thin skinned about it. supposedly mary mccarthy's
> vicious review of 'franny and zooey' in 'harper's' was
> especially hard to swallow. and, of course, after the
> fairly generous praise of 'the catcher' and 'nine
> stories', the critics didn't embrace the glass brood.
> i believe it's been suggested that salinger withdrew
> (?)--delayed indefinitely--the publication of
> 'hapworth' after the ny times book reviewer went on
> the offensive against the glass family after it was
> announced 'hapworth' was to be published in book
> format.
> kim
>
> --- Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> wrote:
> > Beckett seemed to get especially annoyed whenever
> > Anyone wanted to Nail
> > Down His Work to a specific meaning (say, Godot =
> > God).
> >
> > I think Salinger's attitude toward psychoanalysis
> > greatly influenced his
> > attitude toward criticism. I think Salinger and
> > Beckett shared similar
> > attitudes for very, very different reasons.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Kim Johnson wrote:
> >
> > > it's reported that someone asked beckett what he
> > > thought about the avalanche of books and articles
> > > written about his work. his response was a slow
> > > shaking of the head, side to side.
> > >
> > > jim,
> > > in that quote i substituted lit theory and english
> > > profs for zooey's psychoanalysis and
> > psychoanalysts in
> > > his talk with bessie about who might be able to
> > help
> > > franny.
> > >
> > > i think you're making a fine teacher.
> > >
> > > kim
> > >
> > > --- Jim Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> wrote:
> > > > heh ;).
> > > >
> > > > Is that a reflection of Beckett or his
> > characters?
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > Kim Johnson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > that famous passage from 'waiting for
> > > > godot'--written,
> > > > > by the way, by a man who started out as a
> > literary
> > > > > critic: samuel beckett--comes to mind.
> > vladimir
> > > > and
> > > > > estragon, to while away the time, start
> > hurling
> > > > > insults at one another, calling each other
> > > > > names...[lst half omitted] finally, down to:
> > > > > v: sewer-rat!
> > > > > e: curate!
> > > > > v: cretin!
> > > > > e: (with finality): crritic!
> > > > > [[note: 2 letter r's]]
> > > > > v: oh! (he wilts, vanquished, and turns away)
> > > > >
> > > > >
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